1985.  Influenced by husker du, clash, fugazi prod.  By matt ellard (motorhead, morphine, converge) - catamaran,5, 6 kids,six bar phrase hey hey,the great dinosaurs with fifties section,barauga..

2000.  - the garden,shut eye,rearrange,white lies,genevieve,circles,gold,shark song,liven up,tangled up in stars,bear tracks